This special episode of Scaffold features a conversation between architect Mabel O. Wilson and Dario Calmese, host of the new podcast Institute of Black imagination.
“We could be a very equitable society, it's just the will is not there. We have the resources — I don’t think its a project of inclusion, I think we have to radially change the system. If we have to destroy it and rebuild it, so be it. But I don’t think including us in the current system — it wipes us out, it’s not sustaining for us.”
Mabel O Wilson
Dario Calmese
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Scaffold is a fortnightly podcast series featuring interviews with architects, artists and designers, researched, produced and hosted by Matthew Blunderfield and supported by the Architecture Foundation. It is released every two weeks, and is available on Apple Podcasts, Soundcloud, Spotify, and most major podcast platforms.
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